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Please address your questions to: [email protected] .Updated 05/22/04 | 99 messages |
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01/14/04 12:54:23 |
Richard Schlecht |
San Jose, CA Msg 81 of 99 |
What are VCs for but to provide funds for THEIR
clients. Since they are the owners they do not fall
into the purview or spirit of the act. This would
just take limited funds away from a true small
business. I see no difference between this case and a
subsidiary.
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01/20/04 12:37:07 |
Dov Jacobson |
Berkeley Lake, GA Msg 82 of 99 |
VC's who have the ability ($$) to lobby for this rule
also have the ability to lobby for acceptance of their
proposals.
Does anyone doubt that, like so many other government
contracts, SBIRs will soon be awarded not on their
merits alone but on the campaign contributions of the
proposer?
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01/25/04 06:51:21 |
Carl Nelson |
Washington, DC Msg 83 of 99 |
Dov, I doubt it. I do have to defend the federal
bureaucrats. Politics will NOT enter at the retail
level in SBIR. For all my complaining about the
agencies' ignoring an opportunity to foster real
innovation by real innovators, I know of no situations
where politics has affected an award selection. They
fund their mediocrities for honest reasons. The
selectors are mid-level technocrats with no loyalty to
any polity or region. The awards are too small to
attract graft even if you believe that VCs would
traffic in such influence. Although there are a few
instances of SBIR companies getting post-SBIR awards
from earmarked appropriations, that does NOT affect
the awards with SBIR money.
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01/26/04 12:52:06 |
Name withheld by request |
Dallas, TX Msg 84 of 99 |
R&D dollars are too scarce to be given to companies
that already have funding. For the businesses without
VC funding, SBIR/STTR represents one of the few
avenues to fund innovative entrepreneurs.
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02/02/04 14:26:19 |
Michael Zeece |
Lincoln, NE Msg 85 of 99 |
Changing the rules to permit VC competition in phase I
and II funding will alter the landscape of activity
supported by this Federal funding opportunity.
Presently, SBIR programs represent a unique
opportunity for development of �academic� ideas into
technological achievements. Enabling VC to compete
for federal funding will effectively limit the number
of funded projects to those with the largest market
potential. The net result will be stifled creativity,
inhibited innovation and derailed development of more
difficult, but promising technologies. This proposal
is in direct contrast to the philosophy of SBIR
programs.
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02/03/04 16:19:36 |
Name withheld by request |
Chino, CA Msg 86 of 99 |
NO. Furthermore, people are wearing rose-colored
glasses in this forum by believing that SBIR provides
a level playing field. A lot of SBIR's are directed
through political deals and solely benefit one
company and should never be awarded under taxpayer
money. Most SBIR's are created on the behalf a small
company that wants money and knows a sponsor.
Allowing VC into the mix tilts this to the point
where the VC companies will be those with the
political connections in order to get more SBIR's
written to their liking.
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02/09/04 15:47:27 |
Name withheld by request |
Cambridge, MA Msg 87 of 99 |
No, a VC funded business already has funding, and does
not need the help. If so they are being mismanaged and
should be out of business.
A small business with no VC money with few people
needs all the help it can get! We are fighting big
companies and VC funded start-ups, and hence the odds
are stacked against us to begin with.
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02/13/04 12:32:25 |
David M. Gange |
Pennington, NJ Msg 88 of 99 |
The playing field is already tilted hugely in favor
companies with VC funding. They don't need taxpayer
support as well.
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02/19/04 10:34:04 |
Mark Marchionni |
Arlington, MA Msg 89 of 99 |
I wish to submit the following comments on
the SBIR eligibility requirements pertaining to
company ownership by individuals.
The SBIR program has made possible the growth
and survival of emerging companies for decades. In
helping to create new jobs and advance innovative
technology this program has been an essential part of
growing and maintaining a vibrant and competitive
economy in the United States.
The National Institutes of Health has
administered an SBIR program for decades, and this
source of funding has been instrumental to emerging
companies in a growing biotechnology industry. Many
of these companies have been owned in part or were
started by venture capital firms. From my personal
experience, I was one of the first scientific staff
members to join Cambridge NeuroScience, Inc. (CNSI)
in 1987, shortly after the company was started by the
venture capital firm Warburg Pincus. Prior to the
initial public offering, Warburg retained majority
ownership of CNSI and we submitted and were funded
for more than 10 NIH SBIR grants (5 Phase I and 5
Phase 2). I was the Principal Investigator on two
such grants. These funds were critical in creating
the jobs to grow the company from 18 (when I joined)
to more than 60 at the time of the IPO. By virtue of
this SBIR support, several product candidates
advanced into clinical trails or were partnered with
major pharmaceutical companies as part of Phase III
commercialization. Thus, not only has it been
accepted practice for the NIH SBIR program to support
the growth of emerging biotechnology companies, but
it has helped to accomplish the mission of the NIH
and create new jobs as well.
At the current time, I submit that the Small
Business Administration and the NIH need to support
the growth of new jobs in this essential economic
sector�biotechnology. Many have lost their jobs in
the recent economic decline and tax revenues need to
be spent wisely to stimulate job growth.
Biotechnology represents a sector of the economy
where the US has a clear competitive advantage, and
provides an important opportunity to revitalize
economic growth. Further, a very sizeable percentage
of all drugs produced in the past decade have been
discovered at small companies. Since companies that
are controlled by venture capital firms often
represent some of the more innovative and competitive
start-ups, policies that support collaboration
between these companies and government agencies would
represent prudent and productive use of tax
revenues. It is these very companies that have the
greatest chance of advancing their technology through
to commercialization. Therefore, I offer my very
strong support for producing a wording of the
eligibility requirements that would enable the NIH to
include in the SBIR program emerging companies that
are majority owned by venture capital firms.
Thank you for your support.
Very truly,
Mark A. Marchionni, Ph.D.
President
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02/20/04 10:53:45 |
Eugene Watson |
Laramie, WY Msg 90 of 99 |
Further to my earlier comments, I am pasting in below
comments I have sent to Senator Enzi' staffer on the
Senate Committee on Small Business and
Entrepreneurship.
I appreciate you responding to my concerns regarding
VC participation in the SBIR and STTR programs - it
helps me understand where this issue is focused. It
is my view that, whether valid or not (and I don't
concede that it is), the argument made by the VC's,
that small businesses owned and controlled by them
have a higher probability of successful
commercialization than those small businesses lacking
their huge financial resources, completly ignores the
intent and purpose of the SBIR program. The program
was devised to provide a means for small businesses
lacking access to start-up capital to have the
opportunity to compete for federal R&D funding. VC
owned and controlled small businesses obviously were
not, and are not, included in the original
legislative intention. I fail to see the difference
between applying the VC argument to the VC case and
applying it to the case of IBM, GM, Intel, or any
large commercial enterprise owning and controlling a
small business and demanding SBIR eligibility? Of
course, VC's (and all others) are now, and always
have been, able to own a minority, non-controlling
interest in SBIR eligible small businesses. And all
VC owned and controlled businesses are eligible to
compete for the 97.5% of the SBIR agency budgets that
aren't set-aside for small businesses - why do they
need to come after the other 2.5% and cut off those
small businesses that don't have adequate capital?
Seems greedy to me - and against the legislative
intent and spirit of the SBIR program.
My opposition to this move to change the eligibility
rules is primarily driven by my conviction that
Wyoming small businesses will particularly suffer if
this fatal breach in the integrity of the SBIR/STTR
programs occurs and VC's are allowed to own and
control SBIR-eligible small businesses. In my
opinion, if the SBIR eligibility rules are altered to
allow VC participation, the SBIR program as we know
it will disappear and ALL Wyoming small businesses
will eventually be crowded out of the competition
since NONE of our small businesses have attracted VC
participation nor is it likely that any will, at
least in the near future. Without adequate financial
resources, our small businesses will be unable to
compete with those states in which the VC's are
concentrated. And the SBIR program is a zero sum
process - any grant going elsewhere is one less grant
coming to Wyoming.
But aside from our parochial Wyoming interests, my
concerns also extend to preserving the integrity of
the program for the benefit of all of the country's
small businesses who are, after all, the primary
engine of new job creation and economic growth.
If you haven't already done so, I urge you to go to
the following websites and carefully follow the
discussion on this issue.
www.zyn.com/sbir/articles/bnews-vc2-S.htm
www.zyn.com/sbir
/articles/vc/
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